that's in the wall street journal, there was a letter actually signed by dianne feinstein, senator carl levin, and senator john mccain, they wrote to the head of sony pictures, which put out the movie, saying that this depiction of the reliance on those interrogations was incorrect according to the records. there's also a senate intelligence committee report that has not yet been made public, but the summary released of that categorically states that these enhanced interrogation techniques were not -- that they are discredited as an intelligence- gathering mechanism and that they were not a central part of the pope binding in bin laden. host: this is the headlights from yesterday in the baltimore sun -- what did the cia and the intelligence community learn from the bin laden killing and how does that play into the future operations? guest: the cia was working the intelligence exploitation and putting together the trail of breadcrumbs that i think was really what is a fascinating story and reveals the cia detective work, this very painstaking and often un glamorous work to put together c